Battlefield Heroes: Ben Cousin’s Tweet.

It has been a long time since I played Battlefield. Being homeless last year certainly curtailed a great deal of video game playing. I returned to play some Battlefield Heroes. A lot has changed. One of the biggest changes is the on-going debate over changes in the pricing system. Players are currently complaining that Battlefunds may give players an edge over other players by selling weapons. If so, it marks a major retreat on the BF:H initiative. BF:H was supposed to provide no real advantage to players playing with Battlefunds over those playing with VP. Weapons were not supposed to be sold. Apparently, many players were angered by the changes. I for one, use VP exclusively, and would be disheartened if that puts me at a competitive disadvantage.

The second goal of Heroes is to incorporate community ideas into the thread. Some suggested VOIP in game. (I would support VOIP with the ability to mute players.) Ben Cousin’s, of DICE, said he would allow a vote on VOIP when BF:H reached several million players. Using a new twitter account, I tweeted Ben Cousins to ascertain whether he will allow for a vote. His response seems to indicate no.

This would mark a major retreat from the community-driven model as well.

His suggestion that I play another BF game, while well-intended is also rather meaningless as I own BF2, BF2142, BFV, BF1942-RTR-SW). I have reinstalled 2142 on the new computer and it looks awesome, but again I am waiting for tech support.

Here is the current achievement I’m working on:

13 Responses to “Battlefield Heroes: Ben Cousin’s Tweet.”

  1. HelloAndy Says:

    Hi Tore! The idea of Heroes is to make a downloadable game as good as a boxed game, that can be played for free for unlimited time whenever you want. This has always been true – none-paying users can still play on all maps, and try all weapons and clothes for VP earned. But as for all online/mmo games we need to revise and patch regularly to keep the game balanced and alive. That goes for weapons, map glitches, as well as business model. We’re trying hard to balance the business model too, with Battlefunds being among the cheapest in any micro-payment game around today, lowered Battlefund prices, bonus-battlefunds, and we also added “daily missions” that will give you extra VP so you can try all the cool stuff. Also keep in mind that there is not a big difference between the so called “Super” weapons and regular weapons (slightly bigger clip size, slightly higher crit chance, minor things)

    As for the VOIP we’ve decided to put it on further hold. We do regular polls where the community can rate what they are interested in, and we found out that most players are not very interested in VOIP. Those who play in clans or with friends often use the better/more advanced Teamspeak/Ventrilo anyway, since that’s what they use in other games too.

    See you on the Battlefield!

    /HelloAndy, developer and friend

    • @HelloAndy thank you for the reply. I was hoping that Battlefield Heroes would not sell weapons for advantage as I think that was the original intent of the game. The use of integrated VOIP was suggested by another poster as their primary concern so I was merely following up on the suggested by Ben Cousins to hold a vote on it eventually. It is clear that this controversy has been brewing for quite some time. As I am just getting back to the community, it is still rather new to me.

  2. It does of course seem unfair that players with Battlefunds get more advantages than those who don’t have any, but I understand the developers need to make money and those who are willing to pay should get more in game than those who don’t. In my opinion, anyway! But if that game started out with no competitive advantages for players with Battlefunds, I think it’s cheap and greedy they’ve started to introduce that!

  3. How is this helping save Dollhouse?

  4. I dont believe that comment is from HelloAndy 😛

    [quote=’Helloandy’]
    But as for all online/mmo games we need to revise and patch regularly to keep the game balanced and alive. That goes for weapons, map glitches, as well as business model.
    [/quote]

    Bug fixing
    I wonder what is being done about bug fixing, why do they choose a quick (cheap) fix, that will still be buggy. For example double nade/keg issue, now if you drop from a ledge with nadespam ready to throw, the game registers it as a throw, result no more nadespam.
    Map glitches

    map glitches
    Give me a break, the guy who is responsible for map creation/fixing is working 1 hour an week at EA. We don’t see any progress in map glitches being fixed. For example being in a house bug at VV, CC. Easy to fix by making these 2 house solid from the inside or something. But nothing is being done there. And BB, the shipwreck issue with the moving cars…. or when you want to drive there. Still there.

    Weapons,
    Skin problems, sound problems, accuracy problems, some are too OP so are totally not. Nothing is being done about it.

    Businessmodel?!?
    What is your current model? The last one you used is that 5% of the players will buy BF supporting the cost of running the project. But by forcing players to buy BF (update 2009) this percentage has gone up. Also the employees hired to provide content and fix bugs, which we haven’t seen (yet?).

    [quote=’Helloandy’]
    We’re trying hard to balance the business model too, with Battlefunds being among the cheapest in any micro-payment game around today, lowered Battlefund prices, bonus-battlefunds, and we also added “daily missions” that will give you extra VP so you can try all the cool stuff.
    [/quote]

    Balance the business model?
    What do you mean by that, forcing every BF out of a player and trying to be a free game? Well yes that must be a dilemma.

    BF prices have increased quite a lot, sometimes is cheaper BF (bundles are given to give reduced prices). But in the long term BF prices have gone up. VP prices have gone up (sky rocketed), why? The argument was used that players had a lot of VP on there account thus the VP economy was corrupted. I wonder why they havent done anything since then, probably because they are depended on the flow of BF streaming in.

    But you can use the VP daily bonus..
    Thats 75VP, half the vp needed to rent yourself a weapon. Just lower the VP prices will you?

    In that way you have more people playing, and more chance that a few of those players will buy BF.

    [quote=’Helloandy’]
    Also keep in mind that there is not a big difference between the so called “Super” weapons and regular weapons (slightly bigger clip size, slightly higher crit chance, minor things)
    [/quote]

    Right, ever seen the difference between a super knife and a normal one or any other weapon for that manner. It does give a bigger advantage. The thing is, the weapons where introduced and lot of members of this community felt betrayed. Because you promised us in a funny trailer that we couldnt be owned by a 14yo rich kid. So introduction of super weapons, that sucked, then you introduced new anti ability widgets and advantage widgets. We had a wrench and a health pack why did you introduced the other widgets, making the difference between a normal player and BF player bigger?

    [quote=’Helloandy’]
    We do regular polls where the community can rate what they are interested in, and we found out that most players are not very interested in VOIP.
    [/quote]

    Eh, please enlighten me why do you choose the least favored option in a poll and go ahead with that one, instead of doing what we want you to do? (look at suggestion section, tons of new funny, nice additions to this game)

  5. HelloAndy Says:

    If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then … duck! because it’s me in a duck suite with a BFG-9000! 🙂

    Most questions have been discussed in the official forums so I’ll try not bring them up again here.

    Weapons are fairly balanced as they are but one or two need some minor tweaking (the uber knife), though we try to not only look at the weapon itself but also how the whole class performs.

    It’s been almost a year since we did the big price change. We did that because the old free/vp/bf ratio did not work well enough. After the change, we are no longer in the risk of being cancelled by the men in black. What we also did was lower the price of Battlefunds, and we’ve lowered the prices even more since then, plus we’ve given out 20% extra and a lot of other good deals. So nowadays if you like a weapon, you can get it for an unlimited time for very little money comparing to other games out there. We also teamed up with a well-known soda brand only to give you players a cheap/free way of getting some cool quality clothes.

    Speaking of clothes and community requests, the most wanted type of clothes was more army like ones. We’ve introduced four or five army based sets since then. Two of them were “free”. For a new map you voted more planes/vehicles so we did Sunset Showdown. We got critique about the looks so we came up with a complete new setting/houses/environment in the AA map which is gonna be released any day now.

    We do listen, carefully. Me writing comments in the blog posts should be a proof of that. 🙂 But we won’t do everything we’re asked for because sometimes we don’t agree, sometimes the community can’t agree between themselves :), and sometimes we have worse problems to fix that you perhaps haven’t noticed yet. We also have to plan for the future.

    Thanks for playing and caring about Battlefield Heroes. We too care very much about our game, and hope you have a great time playing it too despite the issues you’re experiencing.

    /HelloAndy

    • Thanks for taking the time to respond.

      The BFG9000 is OP. 🙂

      Anyway, I agree that you cannot implement every feature and that the community is often in disagreement over things. Nevertheless, charging for weapons seems to go a bit against the intent of BF:H. Of course adjustments need to be made to meet emerging realities, but I wonder if there was enough attention paid to the sale of non-performance enhancing exclusive goods? My understanding is that the exclusivity of virtual items is what drives the demand for them up- not necesarily performance enhancement. I think most players enjoy player parity and skill development though. I wonder, if given the amount of backlash which remains present on the forum, if the sale of advantage through BF funds is welcome in general.

      As a VP player, I sometimes feel like I’m going to a masquerade ball without a costume. This doesn’t effect me so much as the other players who see a rather dull Hero with a basic wave taunt. When I get killed, I at least get the satisfaction of seeing a Tuba played and the like. I’ve always felt that the VP players need a certain amount of options to keep the Battlefield interesting for everyone.

      I think it also helps if players have a sense of what is being considered and what is not. Again, VOIP is not my first priority, but it was suggested that a vote would be held on the matter.

      (Update: Ha, ha. I put it first on the list of the thread for BF:H concerns. LOL. Well, I guess that serves me right.)

  6. get a job freeloader

  7. […] Nothing seems to suggest a vote on features in Battlefield Heroes anytime soon. […]

  8. […] which I have not been able to get over. I think its because it goes to the core of gaming itself. I’m also not going to re-hash the community input thread, but you can check it out here. I also like to point out when DICE or EA goes out of there way to do something great, which they […]

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  10. when it comes to free games, i always look for free flash games because they have small file sizes -:*

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